Security Confidential S5 E1 Charles Herring

Charles Herring, CTO of witfoo, joins this episode of Security Confidential. He started his career in Information Security in 2002 with the US Navy, serving as the Network Security Officer at the US Naval Postgraduate School. Charles has been a contributing product reviewer for InfoWorld Magazine and spent 7 years running Herring Consulting a firm dedicated to process orchestration. Charles is dedicated to maturing the craft of Infosec.

Chapter Titles:

00:00 Introduction

02:12 Getting a start in Cybersecurity and transition to civilian life

13:22 7 unstable conversations in Cybersecurity

14:40 Establishing a unit of work-increasing deterrence

20:04 Law Enforcement success with cyber crimes-Sharing Information

24:34 How to vet the quality of Threat Intelligence

26:47 Dealing with the Unknown-Unknowns-Zero Day Attack

33:26 1st unstable conversation-understanding all the data from the toolsets

36:36 2nd unstable conversation-managing the investigators

37:28 3rd unstable conversation-security practice communicating with the business

40:23 4th unstable conversation-security vendors lie

41:42 5th unstable conversation-challenges in sharing information by orgs

42:00 6th unstable conversation-law enforcement sharing information

42:04 7th unstable conversation-law enforcement lacks evidence to prosecute

43:30 What is witfoo?


50:10 Breaking in Bad

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Dark Rhino Security\’s \”Security Confidential\” is a weekly Cybersecurity podcast where Host, Manoj Tandon, talks to Infosec and Cybersecurity professionals about the current issues going on in our industry. Guests are able to share their stories about how they began their journey into cybersecurity and connect with our audience. Listeners are able to tune in through Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio, Youtube, LinkedIn, and more.

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Check out the other episodes in Season 5:

Ep. 1 Charles Herring – CTO of Witfoo

Ep. 2 Naomi Buckwalter – How to build a Great Cybersecurity Program

Ep. 3 Michele Wucker – You are what you risk

Ep. 4 Sean Sweeney – CISO and Cloud Security Expert

Ep. 5 Laura Tich – Founder of She_Hacks

Ep. 6 Mia Landsem – Hacktivist helping victims of Image Abuse

Ep. 7 Dennis Underwood – CEO of the Cybercrucible

Ep. 8 Brandon Keath – Founder of the Hacking Lab

Ep. 9 Confidence Stavely – CyberSafe Foundation

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